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Post  ash-lough Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:36 pm

Hi guys got a bit of a problem - doing a cambelt change...

Got the crankshaft and intermediate pulley lined up and the camshaft pulley notch in line with the front of the cylinder head, put the belt back on and it wont fire up. The belt spins fine but it doesnt fire.

When the bottom two pulleys are lined up, shouldnt that be top dead centre? However having done the screwdriver check top dead centre falls at a completely different point on the crankshaft pulley.

Also when the two are lined up the dizzy rotor arm is not in line with the notch on the rim... is that also a problem?

Having followed the Haynes/various guides and it not working what should I try?

Any help is appreciated.

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Post  lemski Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:40 pm

turn the engine over till no.1 cylinder is at tdc, then check the rotor arm on the dizzy is pointing to 1 on the dizzy. after this match the cam pully to the front of the engine if thats where its suppose to be timed up. put belt back on. rotate engine twice and check everything it still how it was b4 you rotated. then fire her up mate. should cure the problem.
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Post  ash-lough Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:43 pm

Cheers dude gonna try this before calling it a night. Fooking freezing outside! Very Happy
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Post  lemski Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:47 pm

should fink it is, on vw 8v engines the cam sometimes has too different timing marks and the cank pulley on my old 1.6 8v also had to timing marks, so we timed mine up this way to get it to work again.
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Post  lemski Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:50 pm

sort it mate?
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Post  ash-lough Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:15 am

Nah, the crank and cam pulleys seem to be in time its just the ignition one thats not firing it. Gonna finish it tomorrow.

Hopefully it will be okay for Sunday or ill be gutted!

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Post  caistor_bmx Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:25 am

I have robbed your dizzy so you aint doing anything.
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Post  caistor_bmx Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:52 am

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Post  lemski Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:04 am

which cylinder are you saying number one is? and weres the rotor arm pointing too?
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Post  Wiztic Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:33 pm

I dont know if this helps or if you know this...but the timing on a PB engine for the crank is taken from the Gear box end, not the pulley. There should be a plug in the top of your gear box right near the block, pop it out and undearneath is the fly wheel, should be a flat spot that lines up at TDC cyl 1 Smile
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Post  ash-lough Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:37 pm

ITS DONE!!!! I willmake it to the meet afterall. Basically we were using the notches on the crank pulley to line up when we shouldve been using the one that drives the fan belt off the crank pulley!

Never heard a sweeter noise than the engine starting up again!
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Post  adi Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:35 pm

glad you got it sorted mate
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Post  lemski Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:48 pm

well done mate, atleast it is now sorted.
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Post  caistor_bmx Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:55 pm

He makes a good cuppa too, not only did we have a few last night he made a corker this morning.
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Post  lemski Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:21 pm

this is good to know for when am rolling his arches Wink
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Post  caistor_bmx Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:54 pm

Oui oui, now that will be a fun weekend Very Happy
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Post  lemski Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:58 pm

as long as theres brews on the go and av got fags i can roll the arches. its all about how the scirrocco arch covers fit on and come off to how easy ghetto rolling will be.
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Post  caistor_bmx Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:04 pm

The arch covers seem to link into the main bodykit and drop into the bumper at the front so should just pop off, we will see though :-)
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Post  lemski Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:11 pm

yeh we will have to see when ash finally comes round to the idea. Twisted Evil
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Post  caistor_bmx Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:15 pm

He is all over the idea, he loves it
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Post  lemski Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:18 pm

well al have a look tomorow at the rocco and see what technique to use on it.
is he actually all over the idea sam or are you pushing him into rolling his arches?
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Post  caistor_bmx Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:19 pm

He is all over me pushing him to do it Very Happy
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Post  lemski Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:25 pm

haha, i see how this works, you tell ash what he should do and you dont stop till he agrees with the plans
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